How the heck do I do this? 7mm PRC Magpul Hunter

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Hey yall, first time poster here. I write notoriously long messages, so if you want to skip the backstory just jump down to the part that says WHERE I'M AT. If you really want to delve into my problem and understand my thinking, please read.

Looking to get an all around North American hunting rifle, and I've landed on the 7mm PRC as the caliber I want to go with. Originally I determined that I would get the Weatherby 307 Range XP in that caliber because I like the stock, and it only weighs 7.5 lbs. That said, its out of stock, and I have a feeling its going to be a while before it becomes available again (not sure If I'd get it before end of October). So I determined that building one may be in order.

My objective: 7mm PRC rifle with a tactical stock weighing no more than 8lbs (ideally under that), and costing no more than $1,200 (at most $1,500). I like the tactical stocks for two reasons -A. They look bad azz. I would prefer a vertical/pistol grip on a hunting rifle.

I thought maybe I'd purchase the cheapest 7MM PRC out there and throw it into a more tactical stock and call it good. Something like this: https://magpul.com/hunter-700l-stock-remington-700-long-action.html?mp_global_color=118

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Remington makes a 700L PRC, but as far as I can tell, the barrel and the action are going to put that build over 9lbs (not certain on this).

Long story short, after hours of digging I determined that maybe purchasing all the parts separately (action, barrel, stock, etc) may be the way to go as opposed to swapping out the stock on a rifle..... As it turns out, the Remington 700 actions I am finding are costing more than some of their rifles! Add that to a new barrel, stock and everything else, and its becoming a pretty expensive build. So then I figured that maybe I should just get a 7mm REM MAG and swap the barrel and stock? This is what I am currently researching....

WHERE I'M AT:
Because I am new to this whole idea of building/assembling a hunting rifle, I feel like I am likely missing out on important information. How would yall build a 7MM PRC rifle with a tactical stock? Magpul Hunter stock (or something like it), and then keep the build under 8lbs, and under $1,500 (ideally around the $1,200 range or less). Everything I am coming up with is heavier, if not significantly more expensive.

Sorry if this is a newb question. There is so much information online its making my head spin because all of the information online talks as if the reader knows what they are doing, and I don't even know where someone is supposed to start with this hobby.

 

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"Building" a 7PRC is not going to happen for $1200.

What about a Savage 110 Timberline in 7PRC? 8.1# @ $1300

Why not just keep the 7RM?
I haven't seen a factory 7PRC load match velocity claims.
Handloads exceed velocity claims...but so do 7RM hand loads.
7PRC doesn't do much, if anything, a 7RM won't do.
 

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How would yall build a 7MM PRC rifle with a tactical stock? Magpul Hunter stock (or something like it), and then keep the build under 8lbs, and under $1,500 (ideally around the $1,200 range or less).

Pick two of those three wishes and you might find something.
 

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As stated, won't happen with all 3 criteria. There is zero reason to stress over getting an unavailable 7 prc in a rifle platform that you wish when there are multiple 7mm rem mag options out there. Nothing wrong with the prc, it's a great modern cartridge, but a 7mm rem mag:

-Is avaliable in the platform you want
-Has plenty of factory ammo available
-Will equal or outperform a 7 prc apples to apples (handload to handload)
-Has ADG brass available for handloading
-Has a metric ton of data out there for loading and is easy to get good loads in. H1000 or retumbo, cci 250's, 180 Bergers, 2900-3000fps with a 24-26".

Also, the magpul hunter stock is heavy. If you want a custom stock, spend a little more and get an AG composites, McMillan or manners. Will be lighter and better quality.
 

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As stated, won't happen with all 3 criteria. There is zero reason to stress over getting an unavailable 7 prc in a rifle platform that you wish when there are multiple 7mm rem mag options out there. Nothing wrong with the prc, it's a great modern cartridge, but a 7mm rem mag:

-Is avaliable in the platform you want
-Has plenty of factory ammo available
-Will equal or outperform a 7 prc apples to apples (handload to handload)
-Has ADG brass available for handloading
-Has a metric ton of data out there for loading and is easy to get good loads in. H1000 or retumbo, cci 250's, 180 Bergers, 2900-3000fps with a 24-26".

Also, the magpul hunter stock is heavy. If you want a custom stock, spend a little more and get an AG composites, McMillan or manners. Will be lighter and better quality.
Dittos above.
Throw in Mesa Precision stock as well!
 

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Take a look at the Christensen Arms MESA or MESA Long Range. They are in your price range. Then change stock later if you so desire. The MESA Long Range stock is very nice for shooting prone or bench though.
 

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As stated, won't happen with all 3 criteria. There is zero reason to stress over getting an unavailable 7 prc in a rifle platform that you wish when there are multiple 7mm rem mag options out there. Nothing wrong with the prc, it's a great modern cartridge, but a 7mm rem mag:

-Is avaliable in the platform you want
-Has plenty of factory ammo available
-Will equal or outperform a 7 prc apples to apples (handload to handload)
-Has ADG brass available for handloading
-Has a metric ton of data out there for loading and is easy to get good loads in. H1000 or retumbo, cci 250's, 180 Bergers, 2900-3000fps with a 24-26".

Also, the magpul hunter stock is heavy. If you want a custom stock, spend a little more and get an AG composites, McMillan or manners. Will be lighter and better quality.
Interesting. Do you have any data regarding the handloads outperforming 7MM PRC? The main reason I like the PRC is because of how well it performs at extreme ranges (saw a video of a guy kill an elk at a hair past 1000 yards). While I don't even plan on taking a shot at an elk that far, I like at least knowing that the rifle can do it. Mainly, it handles long range shots really well because its a high BC bullet. The data that I have seen says that it carries its energy downrange a lot better that a 7 rem mag. However, if 7 Rem Mag can outperform it at distance with handloading, I may have to get into hand loading. That said, I've only just started looking into handloading since your recommendation. I would assume the price of admission (tools/materials) adds up considerably? And again, data showing 7 Rem Mag Handloads outperforming 7MM PRC would be much appreciated.
 

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"Building" a 7PRC is not going to happen for $1200.

What about a Savage 110 Timberline in 7PRC? 8.1# @ $1300

Why not just keep the 7RM?
I haven't seen a factory 7PRC load match velocity claims.
Handloads exceed velocity claims...but so do 7RM hand loads.
7PRC doesn't do much, if anything, a 7RM won't do.
Thanks for the info. I guess I got excited because Weatherby came out with a 307 that cost about $1300 and weighs 7.5 lbs in 7MM PRC. I figured I could build one at least for the same price.

And I don't have a 7RM. I have an old 300WBY but the barrel is about done, so its time for a new rifle. I figured I'd get the best North American all around cartridge and call it good. All the data I have seen says that the 7MM PRC outperforms 7 RM at distance (extreme ranges anyways). How does a handloaded 7RM do compared to 7MM PRC at distance (1000 yards)? Any data you could point me to? I wouldn't mind getting in to hand loading if the data/price made sense.
 

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I just weighed my newly acquired Remarms 700 ADL put into a KRG Bravo. 8lbs 14 oz with the EGW 40 MOA rail on it. Right around a grand, I paid less because I bought the stock used. Veteran's discount on the EGW.
Dang, didn't even know that stock existed! I have been looking for stocks exactly like that. Looks great!! Curious, where did you find that stock? Also, was installation simple?
 

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Take a look at the Christensen Arms MESA or MESA Long Range. They are in your price range. Then change stock later if you so desire. The MESA Long Range stock is very nice for shooting prone or bench though.
Mesa Long Range carries in 7MM PRC, but it weighs just under 9 lbs. Not sure how much it would weigh without the stock. Know of a way to find out?
 

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Dang, didn't even know that stock existed! I have been looking for stocks exactly like that. Looks great!! Curious, where did you find that stock? Also, was installation simple?
You can get this stock for a Rem 700 long action from KRG for around $450 plus shipping. A Remarms 700 7mm ADL costs around $590 retail. So that puts you right around $1100. I paid less because I got the stock and a MDT mag used. Installing the stock isn't hard but if you follow the directions you'll need an inch pound torque wrench.
 
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Mesa Long Range carries in 7MM PRC, but it weighs just under 9 lbs. Not sure how much it would weigh without the stock. Know of a way to find out?
I couldn't find the weight but if you go to their site you'll see the differences on what you'd get when you compare the Mesa Long Range vs my ADL. The Mesa LR has a medium palma contour barrel and threaded muzzle with muzzle brake. That's a thicker contour than my ADL. It also comes with a carbon fiber stock which should be less than my KRG Bravo. The Mesa LR also comes with a sub moa guarantee which the ADL doesn't. I've been through Remington's LE Armorer's class so working on rifles is something I can do. And I'm on the cheap which is why I bought the Remington. I'm fairly confident I can get the rifle to shoot because I also reload. But I also have the tools to pull off the barrel and install a short chamber barrel or a prefit. If you don't then you'd spend over $500 dollars on the barrel, another $400 on the tools. So the Mesa Long Range might cost more but could be more cost effective for someone that doesn't have similar skill set and tools.

Update: I was comparing the Mesa Long Range to my ADL/ KRG set up. The Mesa weighs only 6.5 lbs. My rifle weighs over 2 lbs more. The difference in price would be only $250, more or less.
 
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Thanks for the info. I guess I got excited because Weatherby came out with a 307 that cost about $1300 and weighs 7.5 lbs in 7MM PRC. I figured I could build one at least for the same price.

And I don't have a 7RM. I have an old 300WBY but the barrel is about done, so its time for a new rifle. I figured I'd get the best North American all around cartridge and call it good. All the data I have seen says that the 7MM PRC outperforms 7 RM at distance (extreme ranges anyways). How does a handloaded 7RM do compared to 7MM PRC at distance (1000 yards)? Any data you could point me to? I wouldn't mind getting in to hand loading if the data/price made sense.
If you are shooting the same bullet at the same speed, there is no magic there. You get identical results at any distance.

I was saying, no use buying a 7RM and rebarreling to 7PRC. You gain nothing.

I run a 180 Hyb in my 7RM @ 2996fps w. H1000, or a 184 Hyb @ 3053fps w. RL26 in my 7RM.

I don't think many people, except a few magazines and Hornady have said the 7PRC is the "best all-around North American Cartridge".

 

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