Hornady A-Tip Match 153 gr 6.5mm Testing

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I bought a box for testing in either my 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC. So far I managed to section one to compare it to other 6.5s. I thought you might want to see.

From left to right: 140 gr Berger VLD, 150 gr Sierra Match King. 153 gr Hornady A-Tip.
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I recently talked to Frank Green w/Bartlein Barrels who has shot both the 135 and 153 A-tip. Frank told me both of these 6.5 bullets shot extremely well but has only been able to shoot them out to 430 yards so far.

He's supposed to have some of the .30 cal A-Tip bullets pretty soon so it'll be interesting to hear how they shoot as well.

I have some of the 135's but as of yet, have not been able to shoot any of them.
 

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interesting, I thought the jacket was supposed to be thin but looks pretty thick here....
 

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interesting, I thought the jacket was supposed to be thin but looks pretty thick here....

I know. That was my first impression.


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I would have liked to see some hollow point void behind the tip. Not sure how this will go, but the thickness of the jacket, and no void, changes what I initially thought. I hope we can get consistent expansion.

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I have been thinking about this cut away. If that tip will initiate expansion, the jacket is thick enough I think, that I am optimistic about terminal performance. But if expansion is not initiated by the tip, we could see some wrecks.

What do you tipped bullet shooters think?

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i have shot these in my 6.5PRC and they shot very well. did load workups with H-1000 and retumbo and they mached up real close to the 147s for velocity using the same powder charge. they liked to be closer to the lands once I went past .020 they went to hell.
one thing that I noticed but didn't pay much attention to till I seen the cross section. the 140 and 147 always had jacket and lead fragments around where they hit the dirt back stops but the 153 didn't and the penetration was deeper
 

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i have shot these in my 6.5PRC and they shot very well. did load workups with H-1000 and retumbo and they mached up real close to the 147s for velocity using the same powder charge. they liked to be closer to the lands once I went past .020 they went to hell.
one thing that I noticed but didn't pay much attention to till I seen the cross section. the 140 and 147 always had jacket and lead fragments around where they hit the dirt back stops but the 153 didn't and the penetration was deeper

You have a recovered bullet from the dirt ? Post it I would like to see.


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You have a recovered bullet from the dirt ? Post it I would like to see.


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will do my best. going to try and reverify my velocity this week.
there is a guy on another site that does ballistic gel testing and videos but been staying away that site. if anybody here can do the gel test and post video for everybody to learn from I will donate 10 of mine for test so we don't have to wait till hunting season
 

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Is the Berger 140 VLD in the photo the target version or the HVLD, Hunting version? The hunting version has a thinner jacket then the target.
 

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Is the Berger 140 VLD in the photo the target version or the HVLD, Hunting version? The hunting version has a thinner jacket then the target.

It’s the VLD hunting.


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But if expansion is not initiated by the tip, we could see some wrecks.

What do you tipped bullet shooters think?

My hobby is bullet terminal performance testing. I've tested several 6.8mm ballistic-tipped bullets with and without their ballistic tips. In all case, bullet expansion with the tip removed was greater. I've also noticed that BT'd bullets have larger expansion chambers than non-tipped bullets. BT'd bullets have better BCs and BC sells.
 

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Is the Berger 140 VLD in the photo the target version or the HVLD, Hunting version? The hunting version has a thinner jacket then the target.

The 6.5mm Bergers use the same copper jackets as the 6.8mm/.277 Bergers. I have not seen/experience expansion of the 6.8mm Bergers. The jacket is thick enough to maintain structural integrity on impact if it doesn't hit bone. The bullet yaws and penetrates tail first like an FMJ. I even have put a VLD in a vice and sawed off the tip to expose an 1/8" HP that did not expand. Some hunters have found .277 VLDs intact behind their game in the snow. 6.5 jackets should be stronger. I appreciate Bergers for their accuracy.
 

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I bought a box for testing in either my 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC. So far I managed to section one to compare it to other 6.5s. I thought you might want to see.

From left to right: 140 gr Berger VLD, 150 gr Sierra Match King. 153 gr Hornady A-Tip.
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I see where someone stole this picture and its on some fb pages now. LOL nothing is sacred. lol
 

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I see where someone stole this picture and its on some fb pages now. LOL nothing is sacred. lol

I'm not on fb, I refuse.

Too bad Tapatalk doesn't automatically add the LRO logo onto pictures. Its on another forum now. I saw they added the link to LRO. Good job!

There's a bunch of interest surrounding the A-tips right now. Even more so when the 30 cal. options come out I suspect although I don't see changing to them. I imagine Berger will get the same attention when their new 6.5 is finally released. In the meantime, at least there are some option for heavier 6.5s out to try now.
 
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Is anyone shooting these yet? I curious what speed looks like compared to the 156 with the short bearing surface.
 

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I’ve had a box but have never tried any in a load. When the Berger 156 gr EOL came out shortly after I abandoned plans for trying the Atips in my 6.5 PRC.

I’m sure they will shoot really well but I’m more comfortable with Berger.


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I know Gunwerks has used the 135 gr Atips with success. I’m sure others that may have loads with the Atips.


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Thanks for taking the time and effort to section these bullets and post them. This looks to be a promising hunting bullet if it is structurally just an aluminum tipped a-max.

 

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