Barnes match burner on game?

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As stated, anyone use the Barnes match burners on game? Specifically the 6.5mm 145. Midway has them on a crazy good sale, $90/500 bullets. Yup, $0.18 per. So I picked up 1500 of them. They are tipped, and look very similar to the 144 lrht, but a little longer (1.461 vs 1.420). In checking applied ballistics, they list them as having a .340 G7, better than the 156 EOL of .334, and just shy of the 154 lrht at .349......pretty surprising. They have cdm's for them too, and comparing the cdm's of the 145 to the 156, even at the same velocity, the 145 beats out the 156, and you will obviously get more speed with the 145.

I did a search and didn't find anything. Since we shoot butt tons of pronghorn every year, if there isn't much out there I may start a thread on them next season. They should do pretty well out of my long barreled .260ai. If nothing else, they should poke holes in prarie dogs and bang steel.

 

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As stated, anyone use the Barnes match burners on game? Specifically the 6.5mm 145. Midway has them on a crazy good sale, $90/500 bullets. Yup, $0.18 per. So I picked up 1500 of them. They are tipped, and look very similar to the 144 lrht, but a little longer (1.461 vs 1.420). In checking applied ballistics, they list them as having a .340 G7, better than the 156 EOL of .334, and just shy of the 154 lrht at .349......pretty surprising. They have cdm's for them too, and comparing the cdm's of the 145 to the 156, even at the same velocity, the 145 beats out the 156, and you will obviously get more speed with the 145.

I did a search and didn't find anything. Since we shoot butt tons of pronghorn every year, if there isn't much out there I may start a thread on them next season. They should do pretty well out of my long barreled .260ai. If nothing else, they should poke holes in prarie dogs and bang steel.
Cody,

That's an excellent buy, even if it does not perform well on game. Looking forward to your thread.

Ed
 
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Dang thats a steal! I'm interested to see how they do. Cheap bullets like that I'd think would give random flyers but who knows
 

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I saw one customer review, I think it was on midway. It was vague but if memory serves me right they were pleased on the results with mulies. That was when I bought them over a year ago. Now there is one review on midway where the customer claims to have shot three elk with good results. I'm still waiting for my rifle to test on yotes.
 

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As stated, anyone use the Barnes match burners on game? Specifically the 6.5mm 145. Midway has them on a crazy good sale, $90/500 bullets. Yup, $0.18 per. So I picked up 1500 of them. They are tipped, and look very similar to the 144 lrht, but a little longer (1.461 vs 1.420). In checking applied ballistics, they list them as having a .340 G7, better than the 156 EOL of .334, and just shy of the 154 lrht at .349......pretty surprising. They have cdm's for them too, and comparing the cdm's of the 145 to the 156, even at the same velocity, the 145 beats out the 156, and you will obviously get more speed with the 145.

I did a search and didn't find anything. Since we shoot butt tons of pronghorn every year, if there isn't much out there I may start a thread on them next season. They should do pretty well out of my long barreled .260ai. If nothing else, they should poke holes in prarie dogs and bang steel.
I would expect they will perform similar to other cup/core hollow point designs.

Potentially explosive up close at very high speeds would be the area to be careful about.

But I bet the terminal performance will be fine. I'll be interested in seeing both the terminal performance and especially the consistency and accuracy you get out of these.

May want to check the tips with a wire bit like we do on the bergers to make sure they're clear. not opening them up, just making sure they're clear down to the lead core.
 

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I would expect they will perform similar to other cup/core hollow point designs.

Potentially explosive up close at very high speeds would be the area to be careful about.

But I bet the terminal performance will be fine. I'll be interested in seeing both the terminal performance and especially the consistency and accuracy you get out of these.

May want to check the tips with a wire bit like we do on the bergers to make sure they're clear. not opening them up, just making sure they're clear down to the lead core.
Ya, the biggest issues we usually see on pronghorn is failure to expand, we get two doe/fawn tags a year, and occasionally a buck tag. Their skin is paper thin, their hair is hollow and their ribs can be easily broken by hand, and are only about 4-6" deep depending on the size, so quick and easy expansion is generally preferred on them, 60-70 grain varmint bullets from 16" ar-15's have actually proven rather effective within 300 yards as well. I have a wire gauge drill bit set I can use to make sure tips are open. I'm shooting the 156 at 2940 in my 29" .260ai, so I'm guessing around 3000 fps is where these will end up.

With 1500 of them, I may spend some time sorting bullets, I have seen that sorting by ogive length can help reduce fliers. We shall see!
 

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I just ordered 1,000 of these. Next up is selling my Mark 5 so I can buy a 6.5x284 barrel and get that build done and test these out as well. Still really curious to see some on game performance. Also have some 140 MB that I think I’m going to convince my wife to run in her Needmoor next year
 

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Ya, the biggest issues we usually see on pronghorn is failure to expand, we get two doe/fawn tags a year, and occasionally a buck tag. Their skin is paper thin, their hair is hollow and their ribs can be easily broken by hand, and are only about 4-6" deep depending on the size, so quick and easy expansion is generally preferred on them, 60-70 grain varmint bullets from 16" ar-15's have actually proven rather effective within 300 yards as well. I have a wire gauge drill bit set I can use to make sure tips are open. I'm shooting the 156 at 2940 in my 29" .260ai, so I'm guessing around 3000 fps is where these will end up.

With 1500 of them, I may spend some time sorting bullets, I have seen that sorting by ogive length can help reduce fliers. We shall see!
I just bought the 145 Barnes have been shooting. The 140s. Match burners. All the comments I seen say they perform like a Berger Here’s couple. Pics. 200yds.
6.5 wsm 145s 3100 fps. 1st 2nd is entrance 3rd is exit. They shoot great groups. And definitely expand and exit
 

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Missouri whitetail.
 

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Little late sorry
My daughter this year depredations mule deer doe tag. Big a$$ doe
Custom 6.5cm 145 Barnes ham coated at muzz 2915 fps
She did shoot a little low for the angle and distance but it worked bang flop 695 yards 12mph wind from are 8oclock.
Wish I would have gutted for better pics, bullet frag in spine and hart was gone.
“I DID DRILL OT THE TIPS” was a little hesitant it wouldn’t work.
Like a VLD with better bc
 

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I also took 3rd over all at hunter challenge with 6.5x284 and the 145 match burner
Just bought 1000 more, gonna try them in my other daughters 6.5prc
 

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Nice to see they are expanding/fragging like Bergers. The hollow-tip hole in the of the Barnes is much smaller than the Berger tips so I was on the fence for hunting game with it. Its hard to see the hollowpoint at all on the Barnes. So if someone hasn't picked up the Barnes yet expect a teeny tiny hollowpoint. But so far my Tikka 6.5 PRC with the 145 Barnes they are definatley out shooting the 156 Bergers at 100 yards and 200 yards (I'll stretch it out to 1000 when I get the FPS where I want it) I've just started development.-WW
 

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I've been shooting the 145 MB's for fire forming my 260 AI. These bullets were damaged during shipping but still shoot sub moa groups jammed into the lands. And so far have been predictable with a .340 G7. Most of my shots have been at 500 yards to 800 yards. I did take some shots at 1100 and 1650 yards yesterday and seem to be on but a small sample size of five shots total.

 

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